2025.01.16

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2025.01.16 Agenda/Minutes

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• Co-Chair - Henry Richards (WattTime)
• Co-Chair - Naveen Balani - (Accenture)
• Convener – Sean Mcilroy (Linux Foundation)

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Agenda

• Approve agenda
• Approve previous Meeting Minutes

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SCI for AI workshop Updates

• SCI for AI workshop

• Starts: 28 January 2025

• Workshop rollout

• The workshop will have six sessions, each lasting 1.5 hours, with a maximum of 20 participants. Applications will be reviewed from January 10-17, with the first session on January 28.

• Meeting schedule proposal?

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Software Standards Working Group 2025 Roadmap

• Member Specification proposals

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SCI Review

• Review the current SCI version to determine if there are any areas that should be updated.

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Project Review updates

• Real-Time Cloud
• Added PUE data for AWS 2022/2023 and updated the GCP PUE data
• PUE blog - https://thenewstack.io/cloud-pue-comparing-aws-azure-and-gcp-global-regions/
• Discuss various Org approaches to accurately represent data regarding renewable energy procurement and on-site data.
• Software Carbon Efficiency Rating Chris Xie (Futurewei) - Chris (Futurewei)
• Finalising mockups for the updated SCI label design.
• Transforming Organisational Software Sustainability - Pindy
• sci-guide - Navveen (Accenture)

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Announcements

• Standards Working Group will become the Software Standards Working Group (SSWG) in Jan

• AMA Kick off meeting - 29th Jan

• Chair appointment - Under discussion

• HSWG Focus - Initial Spec - Develop new software-hardware interfaces to coordinate infrastructure needs from the software stack to the data centre power and cooling infrastructure.

• Workshop - Feb/Mar

• Policy WG

• Policy Radar

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For Review

• NTT DATA - Calculating Your Carbon Footprint: A Guide to Measuring Serverless App Emissions on AWS

No comments submitted - This has now been submitted for publication

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Next Meeting

• 30th Jan

Adjourn

• Motion to adjourn

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Henry opens the meeting at 16:00 GMT

Summary Meeting Notes

The AI workshop recently concluded its application process, receiving a total of 32 submissions from 22 organizations. During the roadmap discussion, several potential new specifications for the Scientific Computing Initiative (SCI) were highlighted, including areas of AI, web technologies, blockchain, and circular economy. This discussion emphasized the importance of application-specific boundaries and functional units. Meanwhile, the hardware standards working group is preparing for its launch, with an initial focus on developing specifications tailored for data centers. Additionally, the policy radar project is set to monitor and mitigate emerging policies that could impact GSF members.

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AI Workshop Update
Russ provides an update on the AI workshop, noting that applications have closed with 32 submissions from various organisations. The review process involves six seats already allocated, and 22 applications will be narrowed down to 20 final participants. Naveen and GAC committee chair Thomas must provide feedback before sending out final confirmations and calendar placeholders. Russ mentions meeting with the workshop facilitator to begin designing the structure of the workshops, with further information expected next week.

Roadmap Discussion
Henry and Sean discuss the 2025 roadmap, referring to conversations with SC members and proposals for new specifications. Sean emphasises the need to identify areas for future consideration, including SCI for AI and SEI for the web. The group examines the focus of future work, concentrating on specific applications such as AI, blockchain, and the web rather than broader metrics like water and health. Gadhu suggests analysing overlaps between various environmental factors and applications to minimise repetition in forthcoming projects.

Exploring New Metrics and Applications
Gadhu discusses the potential for new metrics such as e-waste and the circular economy, emphasising the need to consider broader environmental impacts. The group examines the importance of having champions for each new specification to ensure successful development and implementation. Joseph proposes the idea of SCI variants for specific sub-domains, which could help provide clearer guidance and consistency in calculations. The group considers the potential for new categories like procurement strategies and circular waste, which may not fall under the current SEI framework.

SCI Review and Improvements
Henry and Joseph discuss the necessity of strengthening the SCI by addressing structural deficiencies, such as defining application boundaries and selecting suitable functional units. The group considers the potential of case studies to provide examples and guidance for various sectors. Joseph proposes that the SCI guide could feature a section on boundary and functional unit definitions based on case studies and industry feedback. The group agrees to review and formalise the list of potential new focus areas over the next fortnight and present it to the steering committee.

Project Updates
Sean provides updates on various projects, including the PUE project, which is finalising data and preparing for the next meeting. The SCER project is finalising mock-ups for the label and will bring updates back to the standards working group for review. The hardware standards working group is preparing for a kickoff discussion and workshop. The policy radar project aims to create a dashboard for tracking active policies and legislation that may affect GSF members, focusing on identifying problems and developing standards to mitigate them.

NTT DATA Case Study
The NTT DATA case study is ready for publication, with no additional comments or questions from the group.

Meeting Adjournment
Henry summarises the key action items, including laying out the scope of potential expansion areas for the standard group and notifying AI workshop participants.

Action Items

• @sean Mcilroy - Publish the NTT Data case study.
• Finalize the selection of 20 participants for the AI workshop and send out confirmations.
• Meet with the workshop facilitator to design the structure and content of the AI workshop.
• Compile a list of potential new areas for SCI standards (e.g., water, biodiversity, e-waste, circular economy) and present it to the steering committee.
• Explore options for an accreditation or certification scheme for the SSI standard.