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The Bang-Bang Servo Diet #539

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dreeves opened this issue Nov 8, 2024 · 1 comment
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The Bang-Bang Servo Diet #539

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dreeves commented Nov 8, 2024

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Step 1 could be to make a little app for this? Or maybe change this to "The Thermostat Diet" and just reference the Bang-Bang Servo diet as the simplest possible version of a thermostat diet.

one of the beemail respondents pointed me to the "bang-bang servo diet" which apparently has been floating around the internet forever. quite similar to the thermostat diet i described in a recent beemail, but more... bang-bang.

the idea is that you make a spreadsheet in which you enter your weight each day and it has a formula to compare that to the bright red line. if you're below the line the instructions for the day say "EAT NORMALLY". if not, they say "EAT LIGHT" or whatever rule you want to set for yourself on days where you're off track.

now i'm wondering if the version of this that's just like "be mindful and eat less than you normally would" on days your weight is above-trend is fully melzafit-compatible. i know for some people it can be psychologically unhealthy to fixate on scale weight. and also scale weight is noisy. but a system like this is robust to that. there will be plenty of days where you're throttling your intake needlessly and plenty of the opposite. but overall and on average, you'll be pushed in the right direction.

The Thermostat Diet (from beemail, edited here)

My sister Melanie, of melzafit.com fame, and I have been debating weight control strategies. She's all about intuitive eating and breaking out of diet mindset. I'm all about bright lines and rules to follow. We're trying to see if we can find a hybrid system that emphasizes Melanie's methods as long as your metrics are on track and switches to something Dannyish when they're not. Here's a candidate system.

  1. Make a weight loss graph with a plenty big maxflux (max daily fluctuation). Say you're 100 kg and you pick 2 kg for maxflux. Beeminder will set the bright red line 2 kg above your current weight, meaning you're starting out right on the maxflux line. Like this: bmndr.co/d/testweight
  2. Decide how many calories you should normally have in a day. Say it's 2000. It's not important to get this right; make a guess.
  3. If you're on or below your maxflux line, always 2 kg below the bright red line, there are no hard rules. Be mindful, eat intuitively, and apply Melanie's techniques. If that always works, you don't have to ever read step 4!
  4. If you're above that maxflux line, however much above it you are, that's how much less than 2000 calories you can eat. If you're halfway to the bright red line, eat 1000 calories. If you're at or above the bright red line, it's a fast day. The formula is c*(b-w)/m, where in this example c is your 2000 calorie target, m is your 2 kg maxflux, b is the bright red line value of 100 + 2 kg, and w is your current weight.

How to self-enforce that is another question. Maybe social accountability? See the incipient Melzaminder system...

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Verbata: weight loss, weight control, dieting, melzafit, melzaminder,

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