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Script for generating AM1-BCC charges? #94
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This is a reasonable request, and the possibility of AM1-BCC in MOPAC has come up before in development discussions. The AM1 atomic charge part of the AM1-BCC model is straightforward to produce with MOPAC, it is mainly the atom and bond typing that is required for the BCC correction that can get tricky. As suggested, this process needs connectivity information, which could be input from something like an SDF file or produced internally by MOPAC using its Lewis structure assignment feature. Even with this connectivity information, there is a non-trivial amount of logic that is needed to make the type assignments, and without an existing open-source implementation, someone will have to re-implement it. Are you aware of any open-source implementations of comparable/compatible atom and bond typing given molecular connectivity information? Whether as an external script or integrated into MOPAC, I do see this as a desirable feature. I'd be very willing to accept a feature like that, and I might be willing to take a pass at implementing the typing logic myself in the near future. Presumably Amber and/or OpenEye can be used to verify an implementation. With so few previous implementations, I'm slightly worried about a deviation between principle and practice - the typing logic in the implementation papers might not 100% match what Amber/OpenEye do now. |
Yes. AmberTools is GPL and has the relevant typing and code. For example: I haven't looked through the source, but I can certainly take a test set of molecules and generate the relevant types / charges for comparison. Let me know if you have a preferred set or I'll find something we have here. |
I may be slightly misinterpreting this request and/or the availability of various components of Amber. The
I also had to remove an obsolete, unnecessary keyword, |
Just for curiosity - is there some reason why to use AM1-BCC instead of PM7 charges? |
There are people who prefer AM1-BCC for various reasons. Personally, since it emulates HF, I'd probably prefer some sort of DFT-RESP model or a more advanced electrostatics model, but YMMV. |
I'm hoping for an implementation outside of |
I was just unclear about the request - whether it was to have a way to produce AM1-BCC results using MOPAC AM1 outputs (which This isn't going to have a high priority since it's more about eliminating an undesirable dependency than providing previously unavailable functionality, but I'll consider it to be under active consideration. As for reasons to use AM1-BCC charges over raw PM6/PM7 charges, I can see pros/cons to both. AM1-BCC was explicitly fit to reproduce charge data (Hartree-Fock-based RESP charges), whereas the most direct modeling pressure on PM6/PM7 to produce good charges is dipole-moment reference data. On the other hand, the reference data for AM1-BCC isn't necessarily that accurate (Hartree-Fock rather than post-HF data), the BCC corrections don't seem to be that large in practice, and AM1-BCC charges are not continuous functions of atomic coordinates since they depend on discrete connectivity data. There is a recent survey of semiempirical dipole moments where PM6/PM7 are reasonably keeping pace with other models, but again I'm not sure what this says about the quality of the underlying charges. |
I don't know if I have a ton of free coding time, since I'm pouring most of it into Avogadro2 right now. But I'll see if we can implement some of the BCC pieces in straight RDKit or some other form. |
For anyone trying to use
I've reported this problem to AmberTools developers, and it will hopefully be fixed in future versions. |
Is your feature request related to a problem? Please describe.
The AM1-BCC charge scheme is fairly popular in drug discovery, but as far as I can tell, only Amber and OpenEye toolkits can generate them.
Describe the solution you'd like
I'd love to have an example script that can take a molecule in SDF format and use Open Babel or RDKit to calculate AM1-BCC charges using open-source MOPAC.
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