Remove bicycle=designated from "Cycle & Foot Path" Preset

[tordans]

Is there a reason, why we have bicycle=designated on the highway=cycleway-"Cycle & Foot Path" preset?

Or, to ask it differently: Is there a country, where highway=cycleway does not clearly imply bicycle=designated?

I understand why it has to be on the highway=path-"Cycle & Foot Path" preset.

Looking at the wiki https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dcycleway#Foot_access_on_cycleways it is not clear that we actually need it. This linked section just references what the preset does (in an incomplete way excluding the regional presets filter…). But the example actually omit the bicycle=designated.

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My proposal is to remove this line https://github.com/openstreetmap/id-tagging-schema/blob/main/data/presets/highway/cycleway/bicycle_foot.json#L39

It was copied over from the iD Presets 4 years ago.

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This would IMO resolve the issue behind #1193

[balchen]

Would that include the Cycle & Foot crossing preset as well?

[balchen]

Is there a country, where highway=cycleway does not clearly imply bicycle=designated?

The discussion usually revolves around the consequences of adding foot=designated, not if highway=cycleway in itself implies bicycle=designated.

The argument usually goes that adding foot=designated changes the implied access.

[tordans]

I now find the discussion at #1225 which precedes this one. Will keep this open for now to give it visibility, but also happy to close to only have one ticket…

[andrewharvey]

Sorry I don't agree with this. I always add bicycle=designated and foot=designated regardless of highway=cycleway, highway=footway or highway=path assuming both Bicycles and Pedestrians are signposted as shared users of the way. To me this makes it abundantly clear from my mapping that both modes are equally designated to share the space per the "Cycle & Foot Path" preset.